black queen

by gothamalleyviper - 1/11/2014 11:30 PM

So, Jean Grey: black Queen

 Laura "Talon" Kinney (X-23): Black knight
Emma Frost: ?

Who else do you think we should add and in what slots?


RE: black queen

by gothamalleyviper - 1/11/2014 11:40 PM

Jubilee (Vampire version?)


RE: black queen

by LesLes - 1/12/2014 10:08 AM

Jubilee and Laura went sight-seeing together in Paris, and Laura cut her neck to let Jubilee drink her blood.  http://oi56.tinypic.com/35a5bg0.jpg

This reply is a little bit of brainstorming (which means mostly bad ideas) and a little bit how I would take the story if I had time to write. As such you can expect it to focus on the X-Women.

My list and then some of my reasoning:

Black:

  • Black Queen - Jean Grey
  • Black Rook / Purple Queen - Psylocke. A powerful psychic but full of darkness from mind-control by the Hand and Shadow King.
  • Black Bishop - Storm. A bishop needs to tend to her Queen's subjects' faith. A Hellfire Bishop is more like an inquisitor... and it should delight the Queen to see just how much the woman has been changed to fit her role.
  • Black Knight - Laura 'X-23' Kinney
  • Black Knight - Vampire Jubilee
  • Black Pawn - Megan 'Pixie' Gwynn
White:
  • White Queen - Emma Frost
  • White King - Mystique. No man or woman is ever going to be enough to satisfy the White Queen so choose one who can be so many others.
  • White Rook - Hope Summers. First copy Rogue's power, then absorb Quentin Quire. Emma hates Hope and addition to Quire's rebelliousness to Hope's own would only help her enjoy punishing Hope more often.
  • White Bishop - Sage. She betrayed Emma and the old Hellfire Club so her mind will need extensive remodelling to make her suitable for caring for her Queen's faithful
  • White Bishop - Sue Storm. Invisible force-field dildos are the other way to keep horny subordinates in line.
  • White Knight - Kitty Pryde. Kitty has always hated Emma and the feeling seems mutual so she will be a enjoyable target.
Red:
  • Red Queen - Rachel Grey
  • Red Rook / Green Queen - Rogue after absorbing Xavier's powers
  • Red Rook - Carol Danvers. A playmate for Rogue?
  • Red Bishop - Illyana 'Magik' Rasputin. Not a telepath but a little time (in this world, centuries there) in the corruptive realm of Limbo should do wonders for the reluctant convert. They might come back with horns, but what can you do?
  • Red Bishop - Karma. Assume direct control of the bodies and powers of faithful and unfaithful alike.
  • Red Knight - She-Hulk
  • Red Knight - Polaris
  • Red Pawn - Hisako 'Armor' Ichiki
Rainbow!:
  • Stepford Cuckoos - a Princess for each Queen. If the dead are resurrected then Esme was Emma's favourite, and Jean would take pleasure in corrupting the hero Sophie.

* * *

First of all the main threat to the Black Queen is other psychics. She can mask a certain amount of what's she's doing - she's a powerful psychic and it's late and people are asleep. (She's only up because of astronomy club!) To deal with psychics she needs to corrupt the psychics herself or recruit people with the right powers to take them out. It's helpful that it looks like the White Queen has fallen in her lap. Hopefully literally!

People who it would be useful for her to recruit to deal with the other psychics include Kitty Pryde, Illyana and Storm. Kitty is largely immune to psychic powers when phased, but she can still be corrupted while she's solid. Illyana is largely immune to telepaths which makes her a challenge, but she has such a lot of darkness inside her for the Black Queen to work with. And her control of Limbo means she doesn't need to be psychic to convert the X-Men into her wicked servants. Storm combines a strong will and a bit of telepathic immunity from the lightning she marshalls in her mind.

The other weapon against psychic is, of course, other psychics. The addition of the Cuckoos could certainly swing a mind battle and their corruption will be of particular interest to the White Queen. Psylocke and Rachel Grey are the other powerful female psychics with Xavier and Quentin making up the male side. (And Jean has yet to try the forbidden taste of incest.) The latter are tasty targets for Rogue and Hope Summers to make themselves better servants for their queens by stealing the men's powers.

I quite like the idea of the Queens of the Hellfire Club scheming against one another almost as much as fighting and controlling heroes and villains. Between the Queens it's a game of dominance, about displaying superiority, rather than an exercise in power over their minions. That's why I like the idea of the White Queen being Jean's rough equal like at the old Hellfire Club instead of her servant. Up to the next authors what happens with the tiara-wearing Emma though.

But there are other Queens who could be recruited. Either Rachel Grey or Psylocke could become the Red Queen. Rogue  or Hope Summers could easily become a Queen if she killed Xavier or Quire to take their powers.

Then there are the Cuckoos. As well as being transformed into a mobile orgy of sex and corruption, they should be the Hellfire Princesses. One for each of the Queens. And even if there are more than three Queens there can be enough Cuckoos to go round. After all an enslaved Beast can use the Weapon X nanites in the bodies of Sophie and Esme to once again resurrect soulless versions of them who are part of the collective.

I like the idea of the Cuckoos being proteg├ęs the various Queens try to mould into copies of themselves. If they succeed they have the potential to control the collective which is quite a prize. It's also a solution to Cerebro. It's a big prize for the Queens and not one that can easily be shared unless the Cuckoos control it.

Another idea that comes to mind. The different queens might have different themes that influence who they recruit. The Black Queen might preferentially want to corrupt the most pure: Storm and Pixie and so on. The Red Queen favours raw power and strength and so fucks the minds and bodies of the She-Hulk and Captain Marvel. The White Queen favours indirection and subtlty so wants Mystique and Sue Storm.

Anyway, this is long enough now! Hope there are some useful ideas mixed in here.


RE: black queen

by aspiringactor - 1/12/2014 4:11 PM

I think Jean needs to 'convert' a few more soldiers before tackling someone like Psylocke, Emma or the Stephord Cuckoos. Just as 'muscle' and not necessarily people of importance. WHile the positions of power should be filled by women, Jean would see the practicality of having someone like Wolverine or Colossus as a bodyguard/sex slave. And I like LesLes' idea about the Cuckoos. Maybe she could bring back the two dead ones before corrupting the three-in-one. Then she'd be able to tackle Emma/Xavier with no problem.


RE: black queen

by gothamalleyviper - 1/12/2014 6:36 PM

Right now Emma is a lamb up for slaughter, so if people want to play with that go ahead. I should think Naughty Black Queen would want Wolverine for her Black King. But good idea about Colossus too.


RE: black queen

by gothamalleyviper - 2/5/2014 9:39 PM

Jean Grey-Black Queen to Hellfire Empress

Laura Kinney (X-23)- Black Knight

Jubilee - Black Bishop?

Emma Frost- (lamb at Jean's mercy for right now)

-RE: black queen by gothamalleyviper - 2/17/2014 7:55 PM
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C.King - 5/28/2017 3:10 PM
Also thanks, Aspiringactor.
C.King - 5/28/2017 3:09 PM
Good. Thanks.
gothamalleyviper - 5/28/2017 3:05 PM
C.King, not really up on the Jasmine, but I hope you like the short addition to Mary Jane IGM
C.King - 5/27/2017 5:15 PM
Any opinion on or ideas for Jasmine Mary Jane?
gothamalleyviper - 5/27/2017 2:56 PM
put more hints in the forum if anyone want to toss in your thoughts that would help me with Rubber Queen
C.King - 5/27/2017 2:22 PM
I picked giving Mary Jane Jasmine's (from Angel:TS) power (instead of 24 Hour or Infinity Stones) because it is based on image. And MJ has a lot of images laying around.
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hmm... yeah I'll second MJ,
C.King - 5/27/2017 11:44 AM
Might try 24 hrs. Or others like Jasmine or Infinity Stones or etc...
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Honestly I wonder what MJ Watson would do with 24 hours of god like power.
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