Crossing the Line open ended characters

by gothamalleyviper - 6/28/2013 11:05 PM

Open ended Characters, as in thoses that are not being factored into my current Batman vs World campaign directly:

Damien (Robin) Wayne: Will he have a boyfriend?  Or turn out to be Bi?  Will he be master of the teenage sidekicks?

Which other minor support characters were compromised by the League of Shadows to be used against the Justice League?

Nightwing's Harem: Definate Oracle and Raven, but what about Starfire? What about the mirade of other lasses Dick has dicked?  Might he be the one to seduce Krytonian Tail?

 

Which of the renegades will be Batmans Liuetenant?  Who makes the deal with the bat to keep something of themselves while the other two become minions?

Which version of the Huntress is this?  They had a Helen Wayne daughter of Bruce and Selina Wayne, Helena Burtielli (SP?) mob princess and teacher, Helen the time warped daughter of Bruce and Selina in the new 52?  If she is one of the Bat-kitties, does she know what Batman is doing?

 

Which other super teams is Batman going to let get activiated and fed into the grinder?


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by BatPimp - 6/29/2013 6:33 PM

Concerning Damien, I have no precise plans for him, so the best thing I think is to improvise as the story unfolds.

Concerning the compromised characters, since you've already included Lois, we can go for other League members' significant others, like Linda Park, J'onn's Chinese wife (from the DCAU). We could also add some other journalists like Vicky Vale. Or we could consider some minor Leaguers like Booster Gold or Black Lightning.

For Nightwing's harem I had quite a lot of candidates: Raven and Oracle (are almost already part of it), I'm still thinking about an excuse to bring Starfire back from Tamaran, then there is also Donna (Diana's sister), I was thinking about adding Huntress (Helena Bertinelli), it would also be fun if he had Power Girl (Bruce would get Supergirl, after all he already has his own super-strong big-chested woman, and Kara calling Bruce daddy might be super hot). If you can think of a few others, maybe a few female villains, I won't mind.

About the renegades, I was thinking that both Red Hood and Azrael would be pleased that Batman has finally decided to take more drastic measures against his enemies. They might even come to fight on Batman's side of their own accord.

You might have already guessed the answer to this question, but I prefer the Helena Bertinelli version of Huntress.

Finally... Sorry but I didn't understand your last question.


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by BatPimp - 6/29/2013 7:35 PM

A last word about Power Girl: I thought that maybe we could use Galatea, her evil version from the DCAU. Would she be reformed or would Nightwing make her his love slave after beating the crap out of her during a fight?


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by gothamalleyviper - 6/29/2013 11:39 PM

"Which other super teams is Batman going to let get activated and fed into the grinder?"

The entire concept here is for Batman to direct the war in such a fashion that it cripples his so called allies and enemies, making way for him to rise to the top in the end. 

 

Heroes teams feed into the grinder so far: Justice League, Amazons, Doom Patrol, Team Arrow

Villian Teams feed into the grinder so far: Lexcorp, League of Shadows, Injustice Gang

 

Galatea... She might be so unstable that the needs to be restrained "in a special isolation facility" that allows Bat and 'Wing time to "debrief her".


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by BatPimp - 7/1/2013 11:21 AM

I thought about which teams/organizations Batman would want to get rid off and those that he would want to take over.

Teams he would take over: Justice League (the biggest obstacles are Superman and Martian Manhunter)
                                            League of Shadows (to get access to all their resources, mainly the Lazarus Pits)
                                            the Amazons of Themyscira (if he can put Diana on the throne instead of her mother, Bruce would be in effect their real leader)
                                            Checkmate (if they get included into the story)

Teams he would wipe out: private superhero teams like Team Arrow, Supermen of America, the Superman family, the Flash family,...
                                           the different supervillain teams like the Injustice League/Gang, the Legion of Doom, the Secret Society of Supervillains,...

Although, all things considered, it's not so much about which teams Batman wants to get rid of, but about who (individuals) will he spare (to use as his soldiers or simply to humiliate them) and those he will put on the front lines to be slaughtered (though he still needs to copy some of their powers before he sends them off to their deaths).

As for Galatea, she's not exactly unstable. Her problem is that she is completely obsessed with her 'younger' twin from whom she has been cloned (Supergirl). I believe that she wouldn't cause any problems after a good session with the Lasso of Truth. Also, as I already suggested, it might be fun if Bruce got Supergirl and Dick got Galatea.


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by BatPimp - 7/2/2013 6:34 AM

I see you went for the classic Power Girl. Oh well... Nightwing will still get her! ;)

I had a few new couples in mind to add to Cass' harem (she will collect most teenage couples): Captain Marvel/Shazam & Stargirl (Billy & Courtney) and Superboy & Wonder Girl (Connor & Cassie).

And I have an idea about Vandal Savage. One of Vandal Savage's ambitions is to see humanity rise as the dominant power of the universe. After Batman is done dealing with Lex Luthor and Ra's al Ghul, Vandal Savage will come to Bruce with a proposal to help him take over the Justice League and the rest of the world and make sure they follow him loyally. As for how he plans to make the Earth join the Universe's major players, well... the best way is to replace an existing one (think Darkseid and Apokolips). But lets first deal with Lex and Ra's...


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by gothamalleyviper - 7/2/2013 6:49 AM

1 Galeta, what do you think they are working on in the Congo... 

2 Superboy, I know way to many slash fans on diviant art that are looking for robin and Superboy.
3 Savage, who really thinks that he doesn't have a bullseye on him just like the joker?


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by BatPimp - 7/4/2013 9:24 AM

1) I'll let you work on it

2) Not really what I had in mind (not at all actually), but if you really want to do it...

3) Well Savage is not exactly a mass-murdering psychopath like the Joker, he's more of a megalomaniac sociopath like Ra's al Ghul, but, instead of being obsessed with the preservation of nature like Ra's, Savage is obsessed with mankind's progress and evolution.

I thought of a few more additions to Nightwing's harem:
- the female versions of Hawk and Dove, the sisters Dawn and Holly Granger
- Flamebird (Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane), the sidekick of Batwoman (Kate Kane)
- Rose Wilson aka Ravager, the daughter of Deathstroke

And to Batman's harem:
- Mary "Marvel" Batson, I was thinking of using her "Black Mary" version (after she got Black Adam's powers) or the "Superwoman" version from "Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths" (animated movie)
- Andrea Beaumont aka Phantasm from "Batman: the Mask of Phantasm" (animated movie set in the DCAU)

What do you think?


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by gothamalleyviper - 7/4/2013 4:53 PM

As far as Savage is concerned, Batman has a high value target list.  Top Tier villians that must be taken out.  Savage is on there, Luthor, Joker, Ghual, Grod, Brainic, all of the master minds, and the power houses like Bizzaro, Grundy, Clayface and so on. 

 

As far as additions to the harems, I don't have any specific plans.  If some one can line up an opertunity I'm sure the Belfre would take it.

 

Damien is something of a problem for me.  He is one of those characters that I could write a million death scenes for, but can't write a good sympathy scene. 

 

As far as the Kanes, I never really got a chance to read Flamebird so I am not familiar with her, and I am not sure how to work in the current Batwoman.  I did read them in collections from their first appearances in the fifties. 


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by gothamalleyviper - 7/7/2013 1:20 PM

I am setting up a cliff hanger, but I wonder how people are going to take it.  It could mean the deaths of two characters central to the Batman Mythos, but honestly... Joker needs a killing and Damien is a little shite.  I am not killing them outright, but "The wounds may prove fatal..."


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by BatPimp - 7/9/2013 3:50 AM

In the end, I haven't decided of Damien's fate yet. And there's no saying what really happened after that grenade exploded. Knowing the Joker, he was probably lucky enough to survive... or is it unlucky?...


RE: Crossing the Line open ended characters

by gothamalleyviper - 7/9/2013 4:20 AM

The Joker, ah the Joker.  Slice him, dice him, burn him to a crisp, blow him up, gas him, launch him to the moon, and he makes Keith Richards look like a whimp.  Not going to answer the Damien question myself.  I would haul the mangled corpse onto the set of CNN singing "Joy to the World," but that is my personal bias.


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